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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Fading Into Christmas Grinchery&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Marcus Aurelius</title>
		<link>http://www.foolsandsages.com/2008/12/02/im-fading-into-christmas-grinchery/comment-page-1/#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Aurelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure - it&#039;s not the money aspect for us either; it&#039;s the stress of trying to get something for each person, something they&#039;d like, something we haven&#039;t already gotten them twice before, etc. And being sated with all the things you&#039;ve already gotten. I honestly cannot answer the question &quot;What do you want this year?&quot; - world peace, an end to racism, closing Guantanamo Bay, you know, not easy to shop for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure &#8211; it&#8217;s not the money aspect for us either; it&#8217;s the stress of trying to get something for each person, something they&#8217;d like, something we haven&#8217;t already gotten them twice before, etc. And being sated with all the things you&#8217;ve already gotten. I honestly cannot answer the question &#8220;What do you want this year?&#8221; &#8211; world peace, an end to racism, closing Guantanamo Bay, you know, not easy to shop for.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.foolsandsages.com/2008/12/02/im-fading-into-christmas-grinchery/comment-page-1/#comment-1474</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes total sense. And actually there is a grain of truth to it -- A lot of industrial and personal self-worth and image is based on creating wants and &quot;needs&quot;. If we don&#039;t keep consuming, etc., then the advertising industry, not to mention all the other industries that depend on it, will collapse.

OTOH just how bad a thing would that be? (she said cynically)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes total sense. And actually there is a grain of truth to it &#8212; A lot of industrial and personal self-worth and image is based on creating wants and &#8220;needs&#8221;. If we don&#8217;t keep consuming, etc., then the advertising industry, not to mention all the other industries that depend on it, will collapse.</p>
<p>OTOH just how bad a thing would that be? (she said cynically)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it depends on the family member. My brother and I tossed our Merry-Happy&#039;s via e-mail yesterday after I asked what his daughter was into this year (dressup clothes, it turns out). They&#039;ll get something for the boys, I get something for her, that&#039;s it. My husband&#039;s brother would probably be fine with a similar arrangement but his sister actually loves to shop. She&#039;d probably be fine with us not getting her anything but would be unable to abide by her side of the bargain, so we wouldn&#039;t even ask. 

Really, I&#039;m not personally stressed about the money aspect of it. If someone in my family chooses to think that my affection is graded on an expense scale ... well, I can&#039;t do anything about that. 

It&#039;s the desperation I see in the media, via advertisers and such. It&#039;s like if we don&#039;t keep consuming, wasting, spending, etc, we&#039;ll collapse. Like we&#039;ve reached this tipping point where the people on the planet simply won&#039;t have enough to do with their days if they don&#039;t have jobs that involve creating wants and &quot;needs.&quot;

Does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it depends on the family member. My brother and I tossed our Merry-Happy&#8217;s via e-mail yesterday after I asked what his daughter was into this year (dressup clothes, it turns out). They&#8217;ll get something for the boys, I get something for her, that&#8217;s it. My husband&#8217;s brother would probably be fine with a similar arrangement but his sister actually loves to shop. She&#8217;d probably be fine with us not getting her anything but would be unable to abide by her side of the bargain, so we wouldn&#8217;t even ask. </p>
<p>Really, I&#8217;m not personally stressed about the money aspect of it. If someone in my family chooses to think that my affection is graded on an expense scale &#8230; well, I can&#8217;t do anything about that. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the desperation I see in the media, via advertisers and such. It&#8217;s like if we don&#8217;t keep consuming, wasting, spending, etc, we&#8217;ll collapse. Like we&#8217;ve reached this tipping point where the people on the planet simply won&#8217;t have enough to do with their days if they don&#8217;t have jobs that involve creating wants and &#8220;needs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Aurelius</title>
		<link>http://www.foolsandsages.com/2008/12/02/im-fading-into-christmas-grinchery/comment-page-1/#comment-1466</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Aurelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing our family did to try to control the consumerism of the holiday season was to agree on a protocol for gift giving; we would give gifts to the children in the diaspora, but adults wouldn&#039;t give or expect gifts to/from the adults. As adults, we should not use these occasions to try to prove to each other how much we love each other; we&#039;re just trying to let the kids experience the surprise and fun of unwrapping presents and getting new stuff. Which in itself is something to discuss ...

So far it&#039;s pretty much worked. It&#039;s not an easy thing to accomplish, either; some people get bent out of shape if you come across as trying to tell them what to do. So take the advice with a grain of salt. But overall, it&#039;s become a lot less stressful as our shopping list has become that much shorter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing our family did to try to control the consumerism of the holiday season was to agree on a protocol for gift giving; we would give gifts to the children in the diaspora, but adults wouldn&#8217;t give or expect gifts to/from the adults. As adults, we should not use these occasions to try to prove to each other how much we love each other; we&#8217;re just trying to let the kids experience the surprise and fun of unwrapping presents and getting new stuff. Which in itself is something to discuss &#8230;</p>
<p>So far it&#8217;s pretty much worked. It&#8217;s not an easy thing to accomplish, either; some people get bent out of shape if you come across as trying to tell them what to do. So take the advice with a grain of salt. But overall, it&#8217;s become a lot less stressful as our shopping list has become that much shorter.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.foolsandsages.com/2008/12/02/im-fading-into-christmas-grinchery/comment-page-1/#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Join the club, dear.  Bah!  Humbug!!!  Whatever happened to the REAL Christmas?  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s just that we grew up; I think it got co-opted by Greed.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join the club, dear.  Bah!  Humbug!!!  Whatever happened to the REAL Christmas?  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s just that we grew up; I think it got co-opted by Greed.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Julia’s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ArtOfTheFirebird/~3/470641742/" rel="nofollow">Finally Live at 1000 Markets!</a></em></abbr></p>
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